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Sunday, December 18, 2011

Conference Call - Sun. Dec. 18, 2011 - Interview With a Walk-In (aka "Birthed Son") Part 1 of 2

Scripture Lesson:  Deutronomy 18th Chapter

This was a recitation of an "Interview With a Walk-In" which was conducted Friday, June 30, 1995 with an individual who considers herself to be a "Walk-In" which is the same definition as a "Birthed Son" as it is currently explained in I.D.M.R.  Please visit the website and read the complete interview here  http://www.salemctr.com/newage/center14.html.  This is an in-depth interview that answers such questions as:  1)  Where a birthed son comes from; 2) where the soul of the body goes when they vacate their body 3) how a birth son adjusts to a physical body once they take it over; 4) how others adjust to the birthed son that knew the previous occupant (soul) of the body; and 5) where other newly birthed sons can get help to aide them in making the adjustment to incarnating into the earthplane - which can be a difficult experience and often leaves them very angry.  Please listen to the complete discussion here . . .

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Sunday, April 3, 2011

I.D.M.R. Minister's Meeting Summary (6/84-4/86) Reproduced for this Blog

MINISTER’S MEETING SUMMARY
6/84 – 4/86

PURPOSE

Minister’s Meetings were started by the Founder, Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley, and held on a regular basis after coming to California.  Those meetings afforded the ministry an opportunity to come to a common knowledge of getting the gospel across to those coming to the various classes, and to establish a firm conviction and good grasp in the ministers themselves of what we are all about (Ephesians 4:7-13).

DEFINITION OF A MINISTER

One who serves or gives something to someone else; to be helpful and useful.  Positions whereby you exercise your capabilities to help others come to a divine knowledge and understanding (Exodus 24:13, Matthew 20:28; II Timothy 2:24).

Examples:  High Priest of Levitical Tribe; Joshua (Moses’ Minister); Yahshua the Messiah.  Positions are of no notoriety, nor fame, and is often a thankless job (Galatians 4:15-18).

PHYSICAL CONSIDERATIONS

1.      Punctuality Dr. Kinley was a stickler for beginning and ending meetings on time.  He himself was always at Class well in advance of starting time of Classes.  As Speakers began to ignore signal when their time was up on the floor, the institution of a bell system was implemented, giving a Spearker five (5) mintues to wrap up his/her discourse.

2.      Personal AppearanceMinisters dress should be as becoming what the world would look at as appropriate for Clergyman’s dress.  We are trying to embrace others into the knowledge and understand that we have, and as Dr. Kinley used to say, when people come here, before they begin to listen to what you have to say, they are looking at you.  The manner in which you impress is the manner in which they will become impressed.  If called upon to speak and your dress is inappropriate, give an explanation of why you’re dressed that way (work, etc).

3.      Imbibing Alcoholic Beverages/Visibility Of Cigarette Packages Avoid imbibing alcoholic beverages prior to coming to Class or having cigarette packages visible, as this is sometimes offensive and a turn off for someone whose religious upbringings teaches that these are sins.

SPIRITUAL CONSIDERATIONS

1.      Always begin your discourse referencing the school was founded upon a Divine Vision and Revelation direct from Yahweh Elohim to Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley, and other references to Dr. Kinley and his prior history as appropriate.

2.      Refer to the charts; what they show; how they depict the purpose, pattern, and plan of Yahweh and use them, not just for background scenery, while discoursing on your subject matter.

3.      Emphasize differences between what is taught in Class as opposed to other religious organizations with scripture proof.

4.      AVOID TALKING ABOUT ONESELF AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.  THE SUBJECT OF OUR DISCOURSE IS YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH.

5.      Sit down when you have completed what you have to say.  Just because you are called as the first or second speaker does not mean that you have to take a pre-allotted amount of time.  When you run out of gas, sit down.

6.      Listen carefully and attentively to previous Speakers so you can pick up where first or other Speaker left off.

7.      All Speakers should strive to broaden the scope of the material presented and endeavor to progress the discourse into the Preset Kingdom Age  (New Covenant written in our heart and mind; Colossians 1:26).  There should be no pre-selection of Speakers.

SETTING OF PRIORITIES

1.      Try to get to the Tabernacle Pattern as soon as possible because that is what is needed to launch forth into showing how this understanding occurred, and what distinguishes this doctrine from any other teaching in the world – that we have something to go by a yardstick, measuring rod, which is really Yahweh Elohim in transformation.

2.      Blood, Water, Spirit Precepts through Pattern and Ages and Dispensations.

3.      Old/New Covenant with Jews, and showing what differences are.

4.      Abrahamic Promise (which covers Gentiles by faith).

5.      Name of Father and Son.  Dr. Kinley came to us in 1931 and didn’t bring out the names until 1961 (in the book) and 1967 (to the School Body).  He imparted to the people some of the things they needed to know first.  Yahweh himself waited until Moses to give name.

6.      Yahshua fulfilled rather than instituted carnal ordinances (water baptisms, Lord’s suppers, etc.)

7.      Holy Spirit as Yahshua manifest within our hearts (I John 4th chapter.)

8.      Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

CONDUST OF THE MINISTRY

The ministry was admonished their conduct should be that befitting one embued with the Holy Spirit.  (Colossians 1:10, Ephesians 4:1-3, II Peter 3:11-18).  Preaching in the name is not just using the name Yahweh, Elohim, or Yahshua.  Preaching in the name means that it is Yahshua the Messiah in you doing the preaching.  If one does not have the Holy Spirit in him, that is not preaching in the name.  Baptizing in the name is not just using the name Yahweh or Yahshua; baptizing in the name means immersing one in the Holy Spirit (John 7:28).

If there is anything inappropriate about you as a Minister, your discourse will be ineffective; and the effect on the congregation is that they will not be able to hear you because of you ---and that someone may be your spouse.  Such behavior as:  wife beating; uncontrollable alcoholism; fornication/adultery; foul speaking.

Dr. Kinley illustrated plainly the negative spirits would rise up right out of the congregation manifested by their conduct and behavior (Acts 20:28-31).  If a Speaker’s conscience is condemned, he cannot be effective when he/she knows they re guilty within themselves (I John 3:20).  Yahshua the Messiah is our measuring rod, not one another (II Corinthians 10:12—18).

Monday, January 10, 2011

IDMR Now Flatter than a Fritter - No End of the World in 2010!!! (revised)

A prophecy was made by Dr. Heresies that we would not go beyond 2010 because according to Dr. Heresies' calculations - Dr. Kinley declared the world ended in 1960 and there would not be another Jubilee year.  Therefore, we would not see another Year of Jubilee which is 50 years.  So the world, according to Dr. Heresies, would not go beyond 2010.   So I don't know why these people still follow this lying prophet.  All of his prophecies of have failed - beginning with 1996 (which he did a newspaper interview declaring that would be the end) - corrected to 2,000 (because of the 4-year error) and this last pathetic prediction of 2010.   It's seems that everyone who has drunk the schoolaide in IDMR has been lulled back to sleep and have forgotten the simplistic way that we were all given to identify a true prophet of Yahweh - if their prophecy does not come to pass - you don't have to listen to this prophet - it means they went but they were not sent of Yahweh - plain and simple! (for verification of this please read Deut 13:1-5)   Brother Anthony Williams had already written to the assemblies warning them of this pathetic erroneous prophecy announced by Dr. Heresies would most certainly fail. 
IDMR has fallen flatter than fritter!   Many of the Deans have given up their deanships - not able to make any sense of this erroneous doctrine so they are impotent in their ability to preach it.  None of them want to be responsible for misquoting or misapplying this new-fangled doctrine in their schools because that could result in heavy persecution from Dr. Heresies himself.  Of course, the students can't make any sense of the doctrine that's why most schools who advocate it have to have 4 to 7 speakers to get through a 2-hour class.   Deans and students in large numbers have migrated to hindquarters to sit at the feet of Bar Jesus so they can get direct doses of the schoolaide.  It has gotten so putrid that 2-weeks ago Dr. Heresies commanded the entire school to stand up "If they had not gotten their understanding from him!"   Excuse me, Dr. Heresies, this group DOESN'T HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING - THAT'S WHY NO ONE STOOD UP!!!   That's right, Dr. Heresies NOW has a full consensus in hindquarters that everyone has gotten all progressive revelations from him and he passes them on from Dr. Kinley who he speaks to at the breakfast table over coffee!!  Wow!  Don't tell me Yahweh is not still in the business of sending STRONG DELUSIONS!!!
Dr. Heresies has been able to convince these malnourished souls that there is now more than ONE NAME under heaven by which one can be saved because according to Dr. Heresies no one even knew the savior's name when he walked the earthplane - even though IDMR's moderation states - "The simple, yet INTELLIGENT question that we should ask ourselves is, "What was the name of the savior during the time he walked the earthplane?"  So it is evident that these souls CANNOT provide an answer to a SIMPLE yet INTELLIGENT question because they have bought Dr. Heresies' explanation that Yahshua was not known by his name but only by the title Emmanuel when he walked the earthplane - so  I'll make a prophecy of my own - it just stands to reason, hindquarters will soon be revising the moderation to comply with Dr. Heresies' regressive repulsive doctrine.
For those who can't stand the truth conveyed in this manner - too bad - this is absolutely pitiful for a teaching that Dr. Kinley said was the panacea of the world that Dr. Heresies' main advocates are dropping like flies and/or ending up institutionalized.   With a record like this - these folks would have been better off in Christianity - or certainly their latter state is far worse than their first!!!   They began with Yahshua the Messiah "is come" as a quickening spirit and they have ended up on the tarrying bench waiting for a birthed son "to come" named Henry Clifford Kinley!   As John described it I John 4:1-3 these souls are Anti-Messiah.  Yes, IDMR has fallen flatter than a fritter - if anyone has any sense at all instead of "come out of Babylon" - YOU NEED TO RUN OUT OF BABBLE ON!!!
So sad but so glad Yahshua opened my eyes before it was eternally too late!!!  I hope and pray that someone reading this, Yahshua grant you the courage by the holy spirit to see that the majority of the schools in IDMR have left the sincere preaching of the true gospel of the kingdom that is unto salvation and instead are promoting a doctrine that is hate filled and unto damnation.
My prayer for IDMR is that they might be saved.  HalleluYah!