Conference Call - January 30, 2011 - What has Yahweh done for you lately?

Scripture Lesson:  Isaiah 55th Chapter

This discussion started out with the question, "What has Yahweh done for you lately?"  For personal testimonies of the power of Yahweh demonstrated in our lives.  The discussion ended with an explanation of the question, "Is there a devil, has the works of the devil been destroyed and/or the devil does not exist?"  Each of these aspects were explained according to the pattern of the tabernacle in relationship to the purpose of Yahweh.  Listen here for the complete discussion . . .

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Conference Call - January 23, 2011 Discussion of Current Events Cont.

Prayer:  Terri Lately

Scripture Lesson:  Hebrews 1st Chapter

This was a continuation of last week's discussion on Currrent Events.  A more expanded discussion of The Book of Zephaniah and how it relates to events that are taking place now in the news.  Also, an admonishment on how to deal with one another in conversation so that we can all be edified and give equal consideration to everyone on the call not having any respect of persons.  If we strive for mastery let us do it lawfully and the only law in this age is "To love our neighbor as ourselves."  Listen to the complete discussion here . , ,

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Conference Call - January 20, 2011 Lesson No. 3

Scripture Lesson:  Hebrews 11th Chapter

This was a very casual discussion filled with personal testimonies and our individual journey to acquire FAITH in Yahweh through Yahshua the Messiah (the holy spirit) in us.   This was a very tasty discussion and one that should be very fulfilling to listen to.  Sorry for the abrupt ending - my cell phone loss its charge and the call ends when I as the Organizer get off the line - I do apologize!  Please listen here to the full discussion . . .

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Conference Call - January 16, 2011 Discussion of Current Events

Scripture Lesson:    The Book of Zephaniah

This was a discussion on current events of the day such as the birds dropping dead out of the skies all over the world, the schools of dead fish, and the strange weather conditions.  We also discussed the supernal nature of Yahweh and that Yahweh is both masculine and feminine right within himself.    Listen here to the complete discussion . . .

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The Definition of a "Kinleynite"

TO MEN AND BRETHREN EVERYWHERE!

You know it was once common knowledge in IDMR that we who believed on the true name of Yahshua the Messiah considered ourselves to be "Yahshuaians."  I can recall Dr. Arrogant Defiant preaching not long after I familiarized myself with that term that to call ourselves "Yahshuaians" was just as bad as the followers of Jesus Christ calling themselves "Christians" because a Christian is someone who is trying "to be like Christ" or considering themselves to be Christ like.  And for us to call ourselves Yahshuaians we would ignorantly be doing the same thing.  Because to be "Yahshua like" when there's only one trying "to be like the most high" which is the satanic spirit as it is stated in Isaiah 14:14 "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."    Foolishly and ignorantly most of us bought Dr. Arrogant Defiant's explanation and rarely, after that time, do I recall any of us refering to ourselves as Yahshuaians.  

Looking back, I can see how this was all working toward the goal of where the organization currently stands.  It was not long after this declaration by Dr. Defiant, that Dr. Heresies introduced the doctrinal point that "there is NO YOU"  and "YOU don't exist" and "Yahweh is not saving YOU."   These doctrinal issues were hammered into the peoples' hearts and minds and then whatever we believed that we were - it was then made clear that "YOU" didn't exist and "YOU" were a 3-fold negative entity - or a complete spiritual embodiment (spirit, soul and spiritual body) that was created negative and for the purpose of being cast down and out and REPLACED by a 3-fold righteous entity termed a "Birthed Son."   These Birthed Sons for the longest had no clear identity.  We couldn't call them Yahshua because that would have made them Yahshuaians and Dr. Arrogant Defiant had already effectively preached that that was not a correct term for one to call themselves.

So it was necessary to give these Birthed Sons a name.  Because the scriptures do state that those that are saved their names are written in the Book of Life.  So for these Birthed Sons to remain nameless would really pose as doctrinal dilemma for the regressive repulsive doctrine.   So many are all calling themselves "Kinleynites."

As it was taught by the 3rd Speaker in the IDMR Birmingham, Alabama branch school on 01/16/11 which was a relative of mine after the flesh and someone who is in this organization because of my invitation to his sister who shortly thereafter invited him.  He was very dogmatic and emphatic and preached that:

Henry Clifford Kinley is their savior!  The Birthed Sons that were recently born are all "New born babes" as it is stated I Peter 2:2 "As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:" The speaker clarified the reason why this would be so is because we act like we can understand that we can have Yahshua in us and accept someone referring to us by our name and yet not get confused - so just the same way, we should understand that the Creator could be in a physical body and not be confused when we refer to him as Henry Clifford Kinley - we're assuming we're better than him if we can do it and he couldn't!  Just as we would not go to our jobs and asks them to change our name to Yahshua - and if we did we probably wouldn't get paid - even though that's who we really are and nor do we expect people to refer to us as Yahshua.  Why then is it so hard to accept that Henry Clifford Kinley is your savior?  I mean we call Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah and we all know that it was Yahshua in each one of them but we still refer to them by the name they had when they walked the earthplane.  So why is it so hard for those that are not Birthed Sons to accept that Henry Clifford Kinley is the savior?  But then you can't do that if you're not one of the Birthed Sons.  He further explained using the chart "Man by the Pattern" that the physical body that we called Henry Clifford Kinley is now in Ferncliff Cemetary and the spirit that was born in that body to his mother was also a 3-fold negative entity and she named him Henry Clifford Kinley but why can't we see that the man that did all the great works done by Henry Clifford Kinley and he had the scripture reader read some of the miracles performed by Henry Clifford Kinley out of the "Preaching and Teaching in the Name" (Now isn't that comical?) pamphlet. All these miracles could not have been performed by just a normal man so we should have no problem knowing that Henry Clifford Kinley is our savior!  He got so animated he loss his glasses but then composed himself and said 10% know Henry Clifford Kinley is their savior 10% will never agree that Henry Clifford Kinley is their savior and 80% are just straddling the fence and Yahweh would prefer we be hot or cold but lukewarm and he will spew you out of his mouth!

The speaker said he wouldn't change his stance on what he believes no matter what someone says to him.  So I refused to cast my pearls before swine.

However, he was very correct on this point that we all should take a stand and we should be bold in whatever we believe!   So it's safe to  say a "Kinleynite" is "one who believes Henry Clifford Kinley is the savior of the world."   So I will be bold and say I'm a child of the day and not the NITE and I refuse to be called by a name that 's got NITE in it!  I Thess 5:5 "Ye are all the children of light, and the children of day:  we are not of the night, nor of darkness."  Therefore, I will gladly stay in the only name under heaven by which one can be saved "Yahshua" because salvation is in a name and I'm sorry the Kinleynites don't know Ephesians 3:14-15 "For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Savior Yahshua the Messiah.  Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named."   So I thank my cousin for his clear demonstration to me as to what a KinleyNITE is - a damned fool!

Finally! A Dr. Kinley Birthed Son Reponds!!!

TO MEN AND BRETHREN EVERYWHERE!

 

I know I promised no more messages but I'm was so grateful that a "Dr. Kinley Birthed Son" finally responded to one of my messages, I had to share this for the edification of everyone.  I will not reveal this perSON's identity after the flesh because it's not relevant - as of NOW - we should KNOW NO MAN AFTER THE FLESH - NOT EVEN THE MAN YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH - we should all know Yahshua and be known of Yahshua after the spirit.  We should try THE SPIRITS to see if it is of Yahweh as admonished in I John 4:1-5.   So I will only insert here this perSON's admonishment to me in hopes that I could be turned from what they perceive as my deluded state at endeavoring to extol, honor and give reverence Yahshua the Messiah and for declaring that he and he alone is the ONLY TRUE ELOHIM and bearing the only NAME UNDER HEAVEN GIVEN AMONG MEN BY WHICH ONE CAN BE SAVED!   So my profression of faith according to Dr. Robber Heresies' regressive repulsive doctrine renders ME as delusional and in dire need of mercy and grace by Dr. Kinley.  Well, this perSON made a gallant effort I must say to correct me - even feeling sorry for me and ending by rendering a prayer to Dr. Kinley to save me before it is TOO LATE!  These Dr. Kinley Birthed Sons are even claiming to be in the next age with this understanding - if that's so - that's really scary!!!  Wow, after reading this - if you can read - you should see why the acronym for a Birthed Son is "B.S."!  The response to me from the Dr. Kinley Birthed Son is below (just as I received it):

Cathy-

I read the latest letter you wrote and I am more than surprise. I remember back in the days of New Orleans I use to admire the gift that Dr. Kinley had given you. Now, I realize it was more of a curse. It is sad to read the things you say about Dr. Kinley ....I know he definitely is not a part of your daily life. I could only tell you of what he has done in my life. I see his work daily. But I know that you have to live it or experience for yourself, and obviously you have not experienced his tremendous love. I can't tell you of my experience because you will not appreciate it. I think about your own child's named Kinley ....how sad is that? He made you do that. He controlled you and you don't even realize it. I can only tell you about one experience that maybe you might appreciate. Do you remember my ex-husband? I use to be so bitter about the way he had walk out on me and the children. Kinley showed me that in order to be a son you couldn't have hatred in your heart towards anyone....including my ex. I asked him(Kinley) to take it all away. He showed me that he(Kinley) caused my ex to leave me in order for me to be back in class. In other words, he was just an instrument use to carry out his purpose. How can I have hatred towards an object(vessel) used to get me closer to him(Kinley)? I now include my ex in all the holidays and children's birthday. We talk to each other in a civil manner and the children are much better for it. I know how I felt about him and I know what I asked Kinley. What I have received from him is more than I can ever imagined. This is just like me telling you about a recent trip I took to Europe. I could tell you about all the wonderful things I saw but until you see it yourself it will not mean a thing. The only thing I can do is talk about my daddy because I know what he has done in me and in my life. My question is this ...if you feel the way you do about Kinley, Dr. Harris and the rest why are you still coming to class? You must think deep down inside that he will make a change in your life.

In looking and analysing your letter I think you are still looking at things in the physical and not metaphysically. You need to ask him to elevate your understanding. Some of us are already in the next age....

I recommend that you listen to the yousendit of January 9th of Dr. Aaron Bryant.  

My prayer is that Kinley opens up your eyes of understanding SOON...

 

Now, I'm not trying to belittle this perSON this is someone that I knew and loved and remember when they were once in their right mind.  However, I can't make concessions for this because I can do no more or no less than the savior himself.  I have no authority to go beyond Yahshua the Messiah and what he spoke because what he spoke was true then and it is now because THE TRUTH does not change.  So for everyone who is afraid to say the state and condition of these souls - whether in or as some have recently exited out of physical bodies -any soul in this state of mind that you are a Birthed Son birthed by Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley and Dr  Kinley is your savior - as it is was strongly preached recently by Dr. Arrogant Defiant after his recent release from a mental institution and/or drug abuse center - this is what the savior himself had to say about those in this state and condition.

 

Matthew 7 Chapter

 

15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21Not every one that saith unto me, Master, Master, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Master, Master, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

28And it came to pass, when Yahshua had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: 29For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

 

That is plain and easy to be understood - that's if you have any understanding at all.

Conference Call - January 13, 2011 Lesson No. 2

Scripture Lesson:             Exodus 25th Chapter 

Topic:                              The Divine Pattern of the Universe

This was a very intimate relaxing discussion of "The Divine Pattern of the Universe" as it was revealed first to Moses atop Mt. Sinai in a divine vision.  The discussion was personal testimonies of what it meant to each of us personally and individually to find out that Yahweh-Elohim (the Creator of the Universe) was the archetype (original) pattern of the universe and to learn that everything visible and invisible all structures and functions in the universe operate in accordance to the pattern of the Creator!  It was scrumptious!  Listen here to the complete discussion . . .

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Conference Call-December 26, 2011 What is the True Gospel of the Kingdom?

Scripture Lesson:             I Corinthians 15^th  Chapter

Topic:    A brief re-cap of last week’s call which was on the topic “What is the true Gospel of the kingdom?”  The scripture lesson was I Corin 15^th Chapter to lead into the discussion.  Several points were discussed which leads us into tonight’s topic of discussion.

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Conference Call - January 2, 2011 Mystery of Inquity

Scripture Lesson:  I Thessalonians 2^nd Chapter    

Topic:    A brief re-cap of last week’s call which was on the topic “What is the true Gospel of the kingdom?”  The scripture lesson was I Corin 15^th Chapter to lead into the discussion.  Several points were discussed which leads us into tonight’s topic of discussion.

We were admonished by James Young to be respectful of the order of the call.  I do understand that we all enjoy having a lively discussion.  As the moderator, I will reserve the right to mute all the participants on the call if the discussion gets too overbearing with more than one thing being discussed.  Everyone keep in mind, it is my desire and I hope everyone else on the call, that the call will continue to increase in participants as well as those who want to participate in the discussion.  With that said, we don’t want anyone to feel like you will be attacked if you bring up something for consideration.  What has happened to all of us is we have all been victims to some degree of someone else striving for mastery at the expense of others or someone overpowering you with their particular position and not willing to consider yours.  So we as a nucleus, must be willing to follow the instructions of the call but also be comfortable enough to participate in the discussion.  All of Yahweh’s purpose constitutes a healthy balance so we can all be perfected in our understanding.  So as moderator, I’ll endeavor to maintain that healthy balance.  With that said, we do need to discuss the Mystery of Iniquity and if and how it is operating as of now.  More specifically, some believe there is no actual devil or adversary, some believe the works of the devil have been destroyed and some believe the Mystery of Iniquity does have an operation right now.  We would like for everyone to participate in the discussion based on what you know and understand about this topic.  You can listen here to the full discussion . . .

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Conference Call - January 6, 2011 Lesson No. 1



Scripture Lesson:             Isaiah 46^th Chapter

Topic:                                    How does the Creator (Yahweh) communicate with mankind?

This was a very hearty "1st" Introduction to the True Gospel Conference Call discussing that Yahweh-Elohim communicates by vision and revelation.  Listen to the full conference call here . . .

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Conference Call - Sun. Jan 9, 2011 - Mystery of Iniquity Continued

Mystery of Inquity (Continued)

Prayer: James Young                     

Scripture Lesson:  I Timothy 1^st Chapter

Topic:    A brief re-cap of last week’s call which was on the topic “What is the true Gospel of the kingdom?”  The scripture lesson was I Thess 2^nd Chapter to lead into the discussion.  Several points were discussed which leads us into tonight’s topic of discussion.

We discussed the Mystery of Iniquity and if and how it is operating as of now.  More specifically, some believe there is no actual devil or adversary, some believe the works of the devil have been destroyed and some believe the Mystery of Iniquity does have an operation right now.  We would like for everyone to participate in the discussion based on what you know and understand about this topic.

Many of you are aware that I sent out a message to the assemblies and it was mainly to address the fact that they people are without strength to stand against the erroneous doctrine that is being taught in the schools from the deans moving to L.A. so they don’t have to struggle to preach this new doctrine to the students who are clueless that their under an entirely different doctrine from what was originally taught by the Founder, Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley.  Just as the world’s ignorant worship of Jesus Christ is far removed from a true reality of the savior, Yahshua, so too is the understanding of those that promote this erroneous doctrine even though they profess a worship of Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley they are far removed from what he preached and advocated for over 45 years.  The full conversation follows below . . .

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IDMR Now Flatter than a Fritter - No End of the World in 2010!!! (revised)

A prophecy was made by Dr. Heresies that we would not go beyond 2010 because according to Dr. Heresies' calculations - Dr. Kinley declared the world ended in 1960 and there would not be another Jubilee year.  Therefore, we would not see another Year of Jubilee which is 50 years.  So the world, according to Dr. Heresies, would not go beyond 2010.   So I don't know why these people still follow this lying prophet.  All of his prophecies of have failed - beginning with 1996 (which he did a newspaper interview declaring that would be the end) - corrected to 2,000 (because of the 4-year error) and this last pathetic prediction of 2010.   It's seems that everyone who has drunk the schoolaide in IDMR has been lulled back to sleep and have forgotten the simplistic way that we were all given to identify a true prophet of Yahweh - if their prophecy does not come to pass - you don't have to listen to this prophet - it means they went but they were not sent of Yahweh - plain and simple! (for verification of this please read Deut 13:1-5)   Brother Anthony Williams had already written to the assemblies warning them of this pathetic erroneous prophecy announced by Dr. Heresies would most certainly fail. 

IDMR has fallen flatter than fritter!   Many of the Deans have given up their deanships - not able to make any sense of this erroneous doctrine so they are impotent in their ability to preach it.  None of them want to be responsible for misquoting or misapplying this new-fangled doctrine in their schools because that could result in heavy persecution from Dr. Heresies himself.  Of course, the students can't make any sense of the doctrine that's why most schools who advocate it have to have 4 to 7 speakers to get through a 2-hour class.   Deans and students in large numbers have migrated to hindquarters to sit at the feet of Bar Jesus so they can get direct doses of the schoolaide.  It has gotten so putrid that 2-weeks ago Dr. Heresies commanded the entire school to stand up "If they had not gotten their understanding from him!"   Excuse me, Dr. Heresies, this group DOESN'T HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING - THAT'S WHY NO ONE STOOD UP!!!   That's right, Dr. Heresies NOW has a full consensus in hindquarters that everyone has gotten all progressive revelations from him and he passes them on from Dr. Kinley who he speaks to at the breakfast table over coffee!!  Wow!  Don't tell me Yahweh is not still in the business of sending STRONG DELUSIONS!!!

Dr. Heresies has been able to convince these malnourished souls that there is now more than ONE NAME under heaven by which one can be saved because according to Dr. Heresies no one even knew the savior's name when he walked the earthplane - even though IDMR's moderation states - "The simple, yet INTELLIGENT question that we should ask ourselves is, "What was the name of the savior during the time he walked the earthplane?"  So it is evident that these souls CANNOT provide an answer to a SIMPLE yet INTELLIGENT question because they have bought Dr. Heresies' explanation that Yahshua was not known by his name but only by the title Emmanuel when he walked the earthplane - so  I'll make a prophecy of my own - it just stands to reason, hindquarters will soon be revising the moderation to comply with Dr. Heresies' regressive repulsive doctrine.

For those who can't stand the truth conveyed in this manner - too bad - this is absolutely pitiful for a teaching that Dr. Kinley said was the panacea of the world that Dr. Heresies' main advocates are dropping like flies and/or ending up institutionalized.   With a record like this - these folks would have been better off in Christianity - or certainly their latter state is far worse than their first!!!   They began with Yahshua the Messiah "is come" as a quickening spirit and they have ended up on the tarrying bench waiting for a birthed son "to come" named Henry Clifford Kinley!   As John described it I John 4:1-3 these souls are Anti-Messiah.  Yes, IDMR has fallen flatter than a fritter - if anyone has any sense at all instead of "come out of Babylon" - YOU NEED TO RUN OUT OF BABBLE ON!!!

So sad but so glad Yahshua opened my eyes before it was eternally too late!!!  I hope and pray that someone reading this, Yahshua grant you the courage by the holy spirit to see that the majority of the schools in IDMR have left the sincere preaching of the true gospel of the kingdom that is unto salvation and instead are promoting a doctrine that is hate filled and unto damnation.

My prayer for IDMR is that they might be saved.  HalleluYah!